"Phil. That delay on the second step is controlled by delaying the foot that is behind you with a bit of foot pressure.. "

The delay into the third step is caused by simply keeping the body moving longer.

That in turn delays the natural placement of the first step, which delays the natural placement of the next second step, which is what makes it possible to draw out the following third step.

Get ahead at one point, and you are dead - no amount of trying to use your moving foot as a brake is going to fix BAD BODY TIMING. Wheras if your body timing is proper, there's no need to use pressure on the moving foot to slow it down. THE ISSUE IS THE TIMING OF THE BODY MOVEMENT *NOT* THE TIMING OF THE FOOT. That will take care of itself without thought once the body action is right.

"Body flight. Not mentioned in the technique book. All that is needed is to move the weight which is over the heel to the ball and the now moving foot takes over going ahead of the body."

But that does not constitute "taking over"! The body still has a job to do - the BODY MUST KEEP PROGRESSING. Otherwise you don't have any body flight. Let me say that again: IF THE PROGRESS OF YOUR BODY *STOPS* OVER THE BALL OF THE STANDING FOOT, YOU DO NOT HAVE BODY FLIGHT!

"If you look at Timothy Howson, which we can easily find . I do not see the body in front of the feet."

He is briefly at the start of the action. More importantly though, his body is obviously getting FAR AHEAD OF HIS STANDING FOOT, AT A TIME WHEN HIS MOVING FOOT IS STILL NOT BEARING ANY WEIGHT.

"the supporting heel not leaving the floor at the correct time Which should be as the heel of the passing foot passes the toe of the standing foot."

So are you saying Tim did it wrong when he picked his heel up earlier on the feather? I happen to have been told to get it up before that, just as he did, and told so by one of his teachers...

"To quote the book."

You quote the book describing an action that is WITHOUT RISE. The case in question has different footwork by virtue of the FACT THAT IT HAS RISE. Despite having this problem with your cite pointed out at least a dozen times, you keep trying to ignore it and pretend the book says something about RISING ACTIONS that is simply doesn't.

"before the Reverse Turn is commenced right on the first beat of the new bar of music."

WRONG AGAIN. With Tim only placing the third step 4/10 of a beat before beat one, it is quite unlikely that's he's already beginning the reverse turn on beat one! He needs some time to arrive on that foot before he can take the next step!

"Ladies move your leg before your body when going backwards."

Move the foot, from BELOW THE KNEE ONLY. You had better not be moving the leg yet. Especially in the foxtrot, where your body would generally NEVER HAVE EVEN STOPPED MOVING, thus it's obviously moving BEFORE the foot!

"If anybody can see any of the couples on the video doing anything other than the correct technique as laid out in the book. feel free to say and point out where."

They are doing the correct technique as in the book, but they ARE NOT DOING THE OUTRAGEOUSLY SILLY THINGS YOU CLAIM THAT THEY ARE!

Who said the body stands still over the standing foot. What we will see at the end of the beat four on an (and) count is the body coming into a balance position or a neutral position before the Reverse Turn is comenced. In case you are not aware we have Sway CBM and CBMP all of which are taking place continuously.
No presure on the rear foot. What do you think Sway does or is doing.
Here you go again. Get your act together. Of course the body gets ahead of the foot you are standing on. It is not in front of the one that is moving. yours is so you have said, to the point of imbalance, and then you catch your weight. Rubbish. Do you see Timothy off balance and falling. The lady too. I insist on it. Garbage. I would like you to repeat those instructions for us all to see. On the 17/10 you wrote . You should fall past your standing foot. Do you see anybody on the video falling past their standing foot
Try to understand this. As the foot passes on a Heel Lead the heel will leave the floor. The rise it would have created is canceled out with the following step. If I brought my feet together instead of passing we would show a rise straight up. We learn this in a Bronze Medal Class. So do you see how the rise is lost on a passing step.
You seem to have a problem counting the beats. which you have previously said that you do not count and don't need to.( Isn' t that terrific advice to pass on ). Crossley does all quicks over four bars of music all on time, then we loose him.
No compettion dancer would do all quicks on a Feather Step. have you changed your mind on that one. On the same thread you made remarks like that, I should get some lessons.
We seem to have forgotten the upper body contact whilst in a normal hold. I seem to remember how you said that Chris and his former partner didn't have a conection at the right area of the chest of each partner which is supposed to be touching. Have you changed your mind on that one. You have looked I hope.

"Who said the body stands still over the standing foot."

So I take it that when you said "All that is needed is to move the weight which is over the heel to the ball and the now moving foot takes over going ahead of the body."

What you really intended to say was that the moving foot passes the body which is continuint to move WELL BEYOND THE STANDING FOOT, INTO IMBALANCE?

Or are you infact still going to try to claim that the body stays balanced, which is to say that the progress STOPS over the ball of the standing foot? You can't have it both ways... either you keep moving, INTO IMBALANCE, or you STOP in order to stay balanced.

"What we will see at the end of the beat four on an (and) count is the body coming into a balance position"

WRONG. On the and after beat four, a skilled dancer still has not yet even placed their moving foot. They stil have another 1/10 beat (Howson) to 1/4 beat (Sinkinson) of travel yet to go before they place step three. And then they have to arrive their body over the foot before they can pass (momentarily) through a position of balance.

"No presure on the rear foot. What do you think Sway does or is doing."

Most would say, "inclining the BODY". Sway has really nothing to do with moving foot pressue, because sway is primarly a characteristic of the BODY. At some points in the sway the leg line will extend the body line, at other points it won't, because the sway is smooth in the body even as the legs change their position in relation to the body in order to create steps. The sway is of course blended over several steps of each cycle.

"Get your act together. Of course the body gets ahead of the foot you are standing on. It is not in front of the one that is moving."

Yes it is, right as the feet are passing. But very soon thereafter the moving foot will catch up and pull ahead of the body.

"Do you see Timothy off balance and falling."

Absolutely! But as he has GOOD AIM in both time and space, he makes it look wonderful!

The problem is that you don't realize that 99% of the time there's only one supporting foot - you let the fact that the moving foot is on the floor mislead you into thinking it is supporting the body. IT ISNT. Whenever there is only ONE STANDING FOOT, and the body is not vertically direclty over that foot, the BODY IS OFF BALANCE. It's a NATURAL PART OF WALKING AND DANCING.

The problem is that you can't recognize this PHYSICAL REALITY. You won't admit something is often balance until you actually see it fall all the way over... which of course a dance who knows how to aim and sustain their movement won't do. But that does not change the FUNDAMENTAL PHYSICAL FACT THEY ARE ACTUALLY FALLING IN UNBALANCED POSITONS MOST OF THE TIME. You only see good dancing; you completely fail to understand what it actually involves.

"Who said the body stands still over the standing foot."

So I take it that when you said "All that is needed is to move the weight which is over the heel to the ball and the now moving foot takes over going ahead of the body." What you really intended to say was that the moving foot passes the body which is continuing to move WELL BEYOND THE STANDING FOOT, INTO IMBALANCE?

Or are you infact still going to try to claim that the body stays balanced, which is to say that the progress STOPS over the ball of the standing foot? You can't have it both ways... either you keep moving, INTO IMBALANCE, or you STOP in order to stay balanced and don't resume your movement until after your moving leg has stopped moving and become a standing leg.

"What we will see at the end of the beat four on an (and) count is the body coming into a balance position"

WRONG. On the and after beat four, a skilled dancer still has not yet even placed their moving foot. They stil have another 1/10 beat (Howson) to 1/4 beat (Sinkinson) of travel yet to go before they place step three. And then they have to arrive their body over the foot before they can pass (momentarily) through a position of balance.

"No presure on the rear foot. What do you think Sway does or is doing."

Most would say, "inclining the BODY". Sway has really nothing to do with moving foot pressue, because sway is primarly a characteristic of the BODY.

At some points in the sway the leg line will extend the body line, at other points it won't, because the sway is smooth in the body even as the legs change their position in relation to the body in order to create steps. The sway is of course blended over several steps of each cycle.

"Get your act together. Of course the body gets ahead of the foot you are standing on. It is not in front of the one that is moving."

Yes it is, right as the feet are passing it will be ahead of both. But very soon thereafter the moving foot will catch up and pull ahead of the body.

"Do you see Timothy off balance and falling."

Absolutely! But as he has GOOD AIM in both time and space, he makes it look wonderful!

The problem is that you don't realize that 99% of the time there's only one supporting foot - you let the fact that the moving foot is on the floor mislead you into thinking it is also supporting the body. IT ISNT - if it was, it wouldn't be moving. Whenever there is only ONE STANDING FOOT, and the body is not vertically directlty over that foot, the BODY IS OFF BALANCE. This imbalance is a NATURAL PART OF WALKING AND DANCING, regadless if the free foot is on the floor or raised, becuase THE FREE FOOT CAN NOT HOLD UP THE BODY.

The problem is that you can't recognize this PHYSICAL REALITY. You won't admit something is off balance until you actually see it fall all the way over... which of course a dancer who knows how to aim and sustain their movement won't do. But that does not change the FUNDAMENTAL PHYSICAL FACT THEY ARE ACTUALLY FALLING THROUGH UNBALANCED POSITONS MOST OF THE TIME. You only see good dancing; you completely fail to understand what it actually involves.